Cut The Shit and Self-Sabotage with Becc Nelson | LAYC82

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Welcome to the Lift As You Climb podcast, where it's all about

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the journey and the joy of discovering who you are now, deciding who you want

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to become, and embracing your genuine identity, influence, and impact.

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In each episode, we'll explore how life's experiences have prepared us for what

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we choose to do next and how to create our Encore, write our own script, and

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star in the next stage of our lives.

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I'm your host, your Encore strategist, and transformation catalyst, Isabel Alexander.

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Welcome back, everyone out there traveling in our orbit in the universe, and here

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we are today, lifting and climbing with Becc Nelson, and I am thrilled

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to bring her to you today because Becc and I don't know, the universe brought

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us together earlier this year, and at first thought, honestly, I thought

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You We don't have a lot in common.

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Travel in different professional circuits, different ages, and different

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geographic and demographics, and yet I kept being drawn back to her.

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And every time we've had a conversation, it has just been Pow for me, just pow.

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And I'll share in the show notes for all of you today an episode a few

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months ago where Becc interviewed me on her podcast, and I was very excited

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to be one of her early guests when she launched her podcast, Intuition

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Unleashed, let me get that out.

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I was so excited, and you're going to have a laugh if you listen to it, I ran

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away with our whole agenda and plan.

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So if you want to listen to a runaway train, that was me that day when

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Bec was interviewing me on her show, because the sparks were just flying.

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It was like the train on the rails going fast and all that spark, that

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energy that was happening between us.

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Buckle up, buckaroos, because today The roles are reversed and I have the

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privilege of inviting Becc Nelson to my show, my podcast, and my YouTube

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channel to talk about whatever the fuck we decide we're going to talk about.

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But seriously, we're not gonna talk about good shit and I say that on purpose.

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There's a reason you'll find out.

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Stay tuned.

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There's something coming related to that.

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We're also going to talk about What's going on in your head?

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I'm really convinced if you're here today, you're supposed to be listening to us

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because there are so many of us out there in that stage of transition and wondering

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who am I and who do I want to become next?

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So without further ado, please help me welcome the infamous and very

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inspiring Becc Nelson, and her bio is going to be in the show notes and

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all that jazz, but let me just say that she comes anchored in an academic

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background of therapy and mentoring.

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Hello, Becc.

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Hello, a freight train.

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I want to go on that train.

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Let's go.

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Hello.

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Thank you for having me.

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I appreciate it.

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I I'm listening to you describe our time together on my show and

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I'm thinking, I think that train went exactly where it needed to go.

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And I was not feeling at all like it was out of control.

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I think it was very purposeful.

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I had fun.

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So to, to repeat that, I think we need to make more podcast episodes.

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We can keep having this fun.

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Yes, please.

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Thanks for having me on here.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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So it's taken us a while to get our calendars aligned because we

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are busy women getting shit done, building businesses, serving people,

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and also we are women with our own personal lives and interests

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and ambitions and health and etc.

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But here we are today.

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And in the meantime, it keeps coming up for me that The thing that is needed

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in the world most today is positive energy leveraging intuition that

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we feel in our gut and sharing the collective wisdom and more collaboration.

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And so that's why it's very exciting.

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For me, and it feels really right to talk with Becc and ask her to help me answer

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some of the questions that I'm getting from you out there and from my own social

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circle and networks and family, and they're like, how do you make a change?

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How do you transition?

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How do you trust your intuition?

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And Becc, I know you, you've got some really solid advice and

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experience in that area, so maybe give us a little, give us a lifeline.

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Ooh.

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The stage is mine, huh?

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The best way for me to answer that is to talk about my own personal

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experiences because as we know, when we go through something personally, And

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then hopefully successfully, then we can pass that information along to others.

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That's really our calling.

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And the fact that we are here helping other people means that we probably

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have been through it ourselves.

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Not because we are above everyone else, but because we've.

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We've walked through those reads as well.

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So more recently for the past 13 years, I have had a very successful

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private mental health practice.

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I'm a licensed marriage and family therapist and I had, I've been in the

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field for close to 30 years and 13 years ago, my husband and I started

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our own business, which I he brought me kicking and screaming through it.

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I really didn't want to have a private practice where we had

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other people working for us.

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It didn't, I didn't know if that was the right thing for me, but and a

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lot of it was probably based in fear.

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We did it at the time I was also raising our daughter actively.

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So I feel like the business and we had other people working for us.

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The business supported us, me personally, and us as a family

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in the way that it needed to.

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My daughter now that is an adult worked for the business.

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My husband at some point worked for the business, but I started to notice

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over the past 3 years that I was not.

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I had to pay attention to what was happening in me inside and probably a

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good three years ago, I started to pay attention to the fact that I was getting

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a little resentful, I would go to work.

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I was starting to get angry that I'd be there.

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Clients would call and I was getting, I guess it was during COVID.

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So a lot of things changed about our industry and service

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and it got very daunting.

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So it wasn't just the clients that I was feeling that way with the people that were

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working for me and not that I resented them, but I think it was my intuition

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letting me know this isn't serving you anymore and what's going on for you.

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So you really have to pay attention to that.

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If I go in and when I talk about it, I would, I, even now I can feel like this

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heaviness in my heart and in my chest.

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When you're paying attention to your own intuition and I'm saying I'm

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feeling resentful, I always look when people are talking to me and

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where do they put their hand when they say that, because it's probably

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where they're feeling that emotion.

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So if they're like, Oh God, it's so it might, my day is just so much okay,

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they're probably getting headaches because they're showing me that this

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is manifesting here in their head or their, or if they, are like, Oh, their

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arms are on their stomach or they're holding, they talk to me like this.

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It's always, where is that emotion sitting for you?

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And what is it trying to tell you?

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So I had to listen to my own intuition.

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I would go in and I'd feel this heaviness in my chest, in my heart.

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And I started to say why am I feeling like this?

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This kind of gets stuck in this.

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You should dot.

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You should just be grateful that this business has carried you.

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You should be, feeling fulfilled because you're helping people, all these things,

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and those shoulds stopped me from going in the direction that I know I

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needed to go in because I felt guilty.

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There was like a heaviness in my heart that I wasn't, you should just

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be grateful for what this has become because we, had a very successful

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business and probably helped, I'm not going to exaggerate, maybe 1, 500,

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2, 000 people over the past 13 years.

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We, yeah, we had a thriving business.

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Once COVID hit, then some things about the industry really started to change.

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And I knew that I needed to do something a The way we were getting

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paid by insurance companies, the way we were getting reimbursed.

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I was feeling.

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And that the people we were serving were feeling entitled to be

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served, not grateful to be served.

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So it just a number of things happened at the same time.

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In addition to that I had to really think about how I wanted to transform

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what I was doing because I was also being growing my spiritual practice.

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to be more mindful of intuition.

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And how do I marry these two worlds that I'm very passionate about?

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The mental health piece and relationships, et cetera, with spirituality universal

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laws guiding those guiding principles.

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So how do I marry the two of these?

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And the insurance company is not very excited about marrying.

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They do want you to be spiritual, but it doesn't give us the work with

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insurance companies does not give us enough room to be able to do that.

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No billing code for that.

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Yeah, no

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CPT code for that.

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But in addition to that, I was also, a lot of things were happening that were

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making me more frustrated and making it more difficult to be in business.

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When I, reflecting back as the, sort of the things get a little bit tighter

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for you, really what it's the universe saying is, pay attention to this.

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Why is all this happening?

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Why do you, why is it that things are getting more difficult for you to do?

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On top of our rates were not going up, With the insurance companies, I

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was doing more integrated work and getting paid the same as somebody

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who just graduated from school.

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No matter how much experience you have.

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30 years or two years, you get paid the exact same amount.

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If we got raises at all from the insurance companies, it would be, 50

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cents a session, that kind of thing.

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It was just the focus of our work became daunting to me.

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We were losing staff, like a lot of places have lost staff during COVID

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and people, I think apps have made it.

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easier for people to start their own practice and manage their own practice.

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So they didn't need me to do it.

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So I was losing staff and not able to keep them on our, you're probably getting more

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of an answer than you were looking for.

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No I I could just interject for a second and say thank you

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very much for sharing so candidly because this is two points.

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One, when you were saying, I was holding my stomach when you were talking about

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how you were feeling about your business.

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So that's where my intuition goes into my gut.

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And and I was relating to all of the things you were feeling.

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And so do the clients that I work with.

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They have lost the joy.

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They have lost the connection with the thing, the reasons that they went into

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business in the first place, right?

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To have, to be of service, to do what they're good at what they know

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their strengths are, and to have.

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the freedom and the flexibility and to increase financial certainty.

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And so all of the conditions that you talked about and I think they were

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accelerated during the pandemic, just, it just made us like have to face up

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to, Oh, this doesn't feel good for me.

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so thank you very much because we're not alone.

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I've been through it.

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You've been through it.

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So many of our peers have, and it's particularly hard I think

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additionally for women entrepreneurs because we're still also fulfilling

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the other roles in our lives.

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Our relationships, our family responsibilities, our community heaven

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forbid we even find time not to feel guilty to get, personal care done.

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This is good to let others know they're not alone.

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Yeah.

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Thank you.

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Guilt, I think, was the, probably the biggest piece because as it being in

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the service industry, there's this should.

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You should just want to help people regardless of the impact

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that it has on you personally.

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Well,

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to those that feel that way, I say, have a habit because whether you're in

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a service role, whether you're in any kind of give it back, pay it forward,

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lift as you climb role, you need to be, receive value and feel valued.

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Otherwise, you'll run out of gifts.

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The good stuff, right?

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You need to be recharged refreshed, rejuvenated on a regular basis.

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And for those of us that do serve.

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It's the validation comes a lot from the success of our clients, right?

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If they don't love you, don't appreciate you, aren't doing the work, aren't

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making the changes, then it's so hard.

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For sure.

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Yeah.

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And you've got the complexity of all the regulations associated as

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a professional in your industry.

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Wowzer.

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Okay.

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So you listened after a while to your body and your intuition, and you said,

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I'm going to do something about this.

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At what point did you write your book on this training?

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The book came from, it came from my intuition, but I believe that it was

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a step that I needed to do to get to this place that I want to be at, where

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I am trying to get away from using health insurance and provide more of

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a coaching model, because I needed to build authority in my field, not only as

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a mental health professional, but also as a spiritual advisor, minister, etc.

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The book was really written two years ago and it developed and we, it's been

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published now since September of 22.

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so I feel like that was a step that I need to get to the place where I am now,

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which there was a lot of building that needed to happen to build that authority.

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To be able to let go of what I was doing and move forward

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and to be seen as authority in another area or an additional area

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there again, I think it just affirms the.

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The Invisible Thread Between Us, because you said the book was part of

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the process for you to get from there to there, and it was the same for me

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when I wrote my book when I published my book, which is Who Am I Now?

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Feminine Wisdom Unmasked and Uncensored, it was part of that process for myself

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of figuring out my own identity and the journey and making sense of why I

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didn't even recognize myself anymore and what I needed to do about that.

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And in the process, and I can tell from reading the reviews on Amazon and

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everybody let me just pause for a minute.

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The name of your book is Cut the Shit Out and

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the tagline?

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It is Cut the Shit, Reframe Your Thinking, Regain Your Life.

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Thank you.

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That will be listed, of course, in the notes, and if you're curious and

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you're thinking about is Beck's book a good stepping stone for me, just go

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read the reviews on Amazon, because a published author, I know it's hard

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to get people to write a review, but the reviews that are written will tell

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you why this is a powerful resource for you if you're in that place of

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spending too much time in your own shit.

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I'm sorry, going back to, so the book was part of the

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reframing of your own identity,

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it was part of building an authority and reframing my viewpoint from Simply

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a mental health professional to a mental health and spiritual authority.

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Because those two should be together not

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separate.

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For me,

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For me, they really are.

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And I think people at that time were saying, how do you shift that?

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How, what's the difference between you as a therapist and you as a spiritual mentor?

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And I said, there isn't any.

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I feel like the work that I was doing had already, I'd always incorporated those

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spiritual pieces, I just didn't realize at the time that's what I was doing.

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Of course.

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Okay, so how do people get to know more about your style and what you

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do, and what are some of the ways that they can be in your environment

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and say, yeah, you know what?

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It makes sense what she's saying.

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I have a youTube channel that is Beck

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Nelson LMFT, which is a licensed marriage and family therapist.

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And part of what I was doing when I was creating the book was

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also creating YouTube videos.

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So that gives you some perspective as to my my style, my thinking

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process, how I work with clients.

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This is a probably, I'm going to guess maybe.

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50 or 60 different videos in there now.

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Those are several years.

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Make the popcorn and get in there.

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I'm guessing.

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I don't want to exaggerate, but a lot.

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That's super.

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I'm keen to delve in because I had, I wasn't aware that there

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was that much there to draw on.

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So thank you.

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And I've heard you talk about Beccology.

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So could you share a little more about that?

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Beccology is the the science of the Becc.

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I like to refer to myself in the third person.

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My name is Rebecca, but I like to call myself the Becc, and I am a Jedi, by the

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way, just, just in case you didn't know.

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And I'm on the Jedi Council.

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Beccology is my 90 day program that I, it's a 90 day spiritual mentoring program

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that I built specifically for people who are constant givers, who feel like

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they're not getting back the energy that they're putting into their relationships.

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So I was hearing a lot people saying things like I do this for all my friends

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and my relatives and then when it's my birthday or Christmas or whatever

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it is, I, people will text me and say happy birthday, but that's it.

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When it's their birthday, I go all out.

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I think about something that they said six months ago and I buy them this present and

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they're wowed, but I'm just not getting that energy back from those relationships

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and I'm tired and I'm starting to ask myself, is this all there is?

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And I had to first recognize that I was feeling that same way.

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I was saying those same comments.

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I would say, I would look at my stocking at Christmas and say, how

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come I make such an effort to make everybody else's stocking so special?

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And they're opening their little gifts, and then I'll open this one

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little thing, and I'll be like, Thanks, didn't they hear me say six

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times that I really wanted this?

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A piece of jewelry or whatever, and I recognized that I was in that same space.

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So Beccology is a program specifically for people that are saying, what

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do I need to do so that I can have relationships that reciprocate

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the energy that I put into them?

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Oh my gosh.

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I so know the value of what you're talking about and how many of us need

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to have that objective guidance where, you know, when our nose is too close

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to our own windshield, we don't see our behaviors, or Let me speak for myself.

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I don't but I don't think I'm alone in that.

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And so it's very good to have you turn the camera around and give

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them some opportunities on that.

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Yeah.

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I wondered that whole thing about when you give a gift why are you

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expecting the gift of undying gratitude and gushing praise back, right?

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I have a hard time with that.

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It, it's difficult.

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I think a lot of people don't talk about it because there is that

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there's the guilt again, right?

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Like I'm just supposed to.

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Give unconditionally, and so I should feel badly when I start to feel resentful

Becc: 00:22:46

that I'm not getting that energy back.

Becc: 00:22:48

So you have to first face that piece and say, why am I giving?

Becc: 00:22:53

What is it that I'm really looking for?

Becc: 00:22:55

Usually the people that are constant givers in some way Enjoy service

Becc: 00:23:01

to others, but where's that line where it's no longer serving you?

Becc: 00:23:06

And can not be black or white?

Becc: 00:23:08

Either I'm all in or I just cut everybody off.

Becc: 00:23:11

And I think that's what people tend to do is say, that's it's great.

Becc: 00:23:13

I'm just going to cut everybody off.

Becc: 00:23:15

But the secondary piece that I've learned over time is that when you are

Becc: 00:23:20

somebody who hopes to get that energy back, and maybe that you almost need

Becc: 00:23:25

that to feed you, which is another level of that, is that now you put

Becc: 00:23:29

out into the universe, I only want people who will take advantage of that.

Becc: 00:23:36

And so you draw those people to you.

Becc: 00:23:38

So inevitably, everybody who's around you is a taker when you're a constant giver.

Becc: 00:23:43

So that's another part of that.

Isabel: 00:23:45

How sparks on the train track again, because it's true.

Isabel: 00:23:51

Yeah, absolutely.

Isabel: 00:23:53

You're inviting more of those people into your world by having that expectation

Isabel: 00:23:59

as opposed to when I am inspired, doesn't have to be a hallmark occasion

Isabel: 00:24:08

that I am giving because I want to.

Isabel: 00:24:11

There's no, there are no conditions attached to that.

Becc: 00:24:16

But also, if I start to recognize that there are people who constantly

Becc: 00:24:20

take, then how to pair back that relationship, either whether you stop it

Becc: 00:24:24

or completely, or you just pair it back a little bit, and that's conversations

Becc: 00:24:28

that we can have as part of the Beccology.

Isabel: 00:24:31

Yeah, I like that very much.

Isabel: 00:24:33

And, as I'm approaching this, new chapter of my life, which we talked a little

Isabel: 00:24:37

bit about off air, the Encore Explorer.

Isabel: 00:24:41

So I've put all my physical possessions into into storage and I'm going to travel

Isabel: 00:24:46

and so that requires me, as I travel around the world with my, my clients and

Isabel: 00:24:53

people that I know and love and people I haven't come to know yet, friends

Isabel: 00:24:58

I haven't made yet having stuff yet.

Isabel: 00:25:04

Or the, having those commitments to do all that stuff, shipping things here and

Isabel: 00:25:08

there and remembering dates and stuff.

Isabel: 00:25:11

I'm been more in the mode of detaching from possessions and creating space

Isabel: 00:25:19

for opportunity and experience.

Isabel: 00:25:23

I think we touched on this a bit before also about the law of the

Isabel: 00:25:27

vacuum and making room to draw in new things and new people.

Becc: 00:25:35

Yes, so the vacuum law is something that I've been enacting over the past six

Becc: 00:25:40

months in particular maybe a year, right?

Becc: 00:25:42

So the vacuum law of prosperity states that abundance will flow into your

Becc: 00:25:47

life when you create a vacuum for it.

Becc: 00:25:49

So in order to create the vacuum for the energy that you want, you have

Becc: 00:25:52

to let go of some of your attachments to no noticehin of scarcity.

Becc: 00:25:58

Are you ready to release fears and doubts?

Becc: 00:26:00

So it's a letting go of not just physical possessions, but also notions that no

Becc: 00:26:05

longer serve you and keep you stuck.

Becc: 00:26:10

For me, personally.

Becc: 00:26:11

Over the past year, The first thing that I did was I needed to make free homes.

Becc: 00:26:17

are my two horses, which broke my heart and still is this month, it'll be a

Becc: 00:26:22

year because we really recognized that it was, I was, again, starting to feel

Becc: 00:26:27

like, Oh, I'm tired of doing this.

Becc: 00:26:29

And this is a lot of work and it's taking a lot of my money, even though

Becc: 00:26:32

I obviously love my horses, and it was very difficult for me to move them along.

Becc: 00:26:38

I noticed that I was putting so much of my energy into it that I didn't have

Becc: 00:26:41

that energy available for other things.

Becc: 00:26:43

So that was the first piece that was difficult to.

Becc: 00:26:46

to move along.

Becc: 00:26:46

I think it was the right thing for us and me, but it doesn't mean it's any easier.

Isabel: 00:26:56

I am sure that it was hard to let go of something you had a great emotional

Isabel: 00:27:05

connection to but it's great that you have processes to help you work through.

Isabel: 00:27:15

That the right decision is at the right time, and how do I do so with

Isabel: 00:27:20

as much grace and ease as possible?

Isabel: 00:27:24

So whether it's, the relationship with.

Isabel: 00:27:27

your horses or when I was packing up I went through two very painful personal

Isabel: 00:27:34

letting goes, releasing, as I call them, and one was a lamp of my mother's

Isabel: 00:27:41

the old fashioned television lamp that furniture piece of furniture was the

Isabel: 00:27:45

TV in the living room and it had a lamp on it and the lamp had so many cracks

Isabel: 00:27:50

and it had been glued together so many times and the wiring was burnt out and

Isabel: 00:27:54

stuff but I kept carrying that around because I associated the memory of my

Isabel: 00:27:59

mother with that lamp, and finally this time I had a conversation with myself

Isabel: 00:28:05

and said the memory of my mother will always be with me in my head in my heart.

Isabel: 00:28:14

It's not in a piece of chipped up broken cheap ceramic, right?

Isabel: 00:28:20

And so it was hard.

Isabel: 00:28:22

I had a big cry but I walked myself to the trash bin and had a conversation

Isabel: 00:28:27

with my mother and I released her.

Isabel: 00:28:32

It was like letting the genie out of the bottle in some ways for both of us.

Isabel: 00:28:37

Maybe for my mother and maybe for, and definitely for me because I didn't keep

Isabel: 00:28:43

my feelings about her trapped in that old

Isabel: 00:28:46

lamp.

Becc: 00:28:48

What I love to do I'm relating to you because when we closed our

Becc: 00:28:52

office, which was now back in March, we had a 2000 square foot office.

Becc: 00:28:56

So we had 6 living rooms full of furniture.

Becc: 00:29:00

But also the waiting room and the kitchen, like we had tons of furniture.

Becc: 00:29:05

And I remember looking around saying, what about all this stuff?

Becc: 00:29:08

This is good stuff.

Becc: 00:29:09

I had a grandfather clock.

Becc: 00:29:12

And one of the things that helped me is that I, as I dropped each of these

Becc: 00:29:17

perfectly great pieces off to savers, to donate over the course of the several

Becc: 00:29:22

weeks was I thanked each individual piece for its service and what it did for us.

Becc: 00:29:27

And that I, I wasn't me letting go of it was not as a symbol of no longer

Becc: 00:29:33

being grateful or needing it, but that it was time to let somebody else.

Becc: 00:29:38

Benefit from these pieces.

Becc: 00:29:40

. And I think that helps my heart a little bit.

Becc: 00:29:43

And the sort of similar to what you're saying about releasing this lamp like

Becc: 00:29:47

this lamp does not represent my mother.

Becc: 00:29:50

I'm getting goosebumps as we're talking.

Becc: 00:29:51

But just to thank this lamp for its service to you,

Isabel: 00:29:56

that's a beautiful way to approach those.

Isabel: 00:30:00

They are.

Isabel: 00:30:01

Let's be honest.

Isabel: 00:30:02

It's a, it's an emotional thing, but to be able to say, Okay, thank you.

Isabel: 00:30:08

Thank you.

Isabel: 00:30:09

You can never have that taken away from you.

Isabel: 00:30:12

All right.

Isabel: 00:30:13

As always, when you and I get to talk, I want to keep on exploring and turning

Isabel: 00:30:23

the corners, because it's, I feel like there's just so much that we can share

Isabel: 00:30:28

and that I think may help someone else at some point in their journey.

Isabel: 00:30:36

Would you please come back another time and do this with me, because I would love

Isabel: 00:30:45

to have that together with you, and I'd like to continue to follow your success.

Becc: 00:30:53

Oh, I appreciate that.

Becc: 00:30:54

Thanks for letting me be part of it and being part of mine.

Becc: 00:30:56

I would love to come back.

Isabel: 00:30:58

Excellent.

Isabel: 00:30:59

All right.

Isabel: 00:30:59

For today, we're going to bring this train into the station, since

Isabel: 00:31:03

we have the theme going, but for everyone, please, if you're listening

Isabel: 00:31:11

to this on the podcast, make sure.

Isabel: 00:31:15

Pay attention, subscribe to Becc Becc's podcast too, and check out her book, and

Isabel: 00:31:21

check out her website, and for goodness sake, the science of Becc, Beccology,

Isabel: 00:31:29

smells like something that we all need to tap into she's a Jedi we're,

Isabel: 00:31:33

it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen.

Isabel: 00:31:37

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Isabel: 00:31:44

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Isabel: 00:31:53

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Isabel: 00:32:04

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Isabel: 00:32:09

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Isabel: 00:32:18

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Isabel: 00:32:34

lot of questions about, is it time?

Isabel: 00:32:38

to do something different or can you transform yourself and your

Isabel: 00:32:43

relationship with your business?

Isabel: 00:32:45

Can you fire yourself as the chief cook and bottle washer and promote

Isabel: 00:32:49

yourself to the chairman of the board?

Isabel: 00:32:52

I'd love to help you with that.

Isabel: 00:32:55

Ciao for now, girl.

Isabel: 00:32:57

And I'll talk to you very soon.

Isabel: 00:32:59

And again, deep gratitude.

Isabel: 00:33:02

Thank you.

Becc: 00:33:03

Thanks for having me.

Becc: 00:33:04

Where did that time go?

Isabel: 00:33:06

I know the tongue flies.

Isabel: 00:33:08

Wow.

Isabel: 00:33:20

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Isabel: 00:33:23

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Isabel: 00:33:27

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Isabel: 00:33:30

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Isabel: 00:33:36

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Isabel: 00:34:05

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Isabel: 00:34:10

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Isabel: 00:34:24

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